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enter_the_zone · Feb 17, 2008, 10:00 PM // 22:00

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Originally Posted by Full Metal X

MONK STOMP EVERYONE ATTACK THE MONK AND WE WILL WIN IGNORE THE FACT THAT HE HAS GUARDIAN AND WE ARE HEXED AND STANDING IN AOE JUST ATTACK HIM!!! CAPS LOCK CRUISE CONTROL

Sounds like a lot of HA teams right there...

FlamingMetroid · Feb 17, 2008, 10:00 PM // 22:00

Guild Wars has PvP!?!?!?!?! ;D

Bryant Again · Feb 17, 2008, 10:02 PM // 22:02

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Originally Posted by enter_the_zone

Sounds like a lot of HA teams right there...

Sadly, I could say the same of PvErs. Assholes are everywhere in Guild Wars.

enter_the_zone · Feb 17, 2008, 10:07 PM // 22:07

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

Sadly, I could say the same of PvErs. Assholes are everywhere in Guild Wars.

Agreed, as I have said numerous times in this thread. Apparently not wanting to hear their annoying voices on vent means I've run away with my tails between my legs because somebody killed me in a match.

Tell me, given all my posts here, does anyone think I run away for nothing?

Edit: I think we need to clarify something here. When I refer to PVP I am actually referring explicitly to HA. I GvG, AB and very rarely HB.

Llint · Feb 17, 2008, 10:23 PM // 22:23

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Originally Posted by enter_the_zone

Agreed, as I have said numerous times in this thread. Apparently not wanting to hear their annoying voices on vent means I've run away with my tails between my legs because somebody killed me in a match.

Tell me, given all my posts here, does anyone think I run away for nothing?

Edit: I think we need to clarify something here. When I refer to PVP I am actually referring explicitly to HA. I GvG, AB and very rarely HB.

Ive never had a problem with people on Vent. Sure, you get the occasional 12 year old, but unless that guy is saying stuff that I deem offensive I can live with it .

Also, usually the people on Vent are the mature ones. Ive never had any consistent problem with people in HA (Other then making a group) . You always ALWAYS will get the ocassional ED$N%#K$N%KS in a group, but they invented a kick button for a reason.

Cathode_Reborn · Feb 17, 2008, 10:23 PM // 22:23

I think we all knew this was gonna fill up with BS by idiots from both sides. PvE'ers that claim all pvp'ers are a**holes, PvP'ers that assume pve is all about grind/titles, etc. In the end, everyone with a biased opinion looks stupid.

Looks like I'm about 85 posts late to this:

enter_the_zone · Feb 17, 2008, 10:25 PM // 22:25

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Originally Posted by Llint

Ive never had a problem with people on Vent. Sure, you get the occasional 12 year old, but unless that guy is saying stuff that I deem offensive I can live with it .

Also, usually the people on Vent are the mature ones. Ive never had any consistent problem with people in HA (Other then making a group) . You always ALWAYS will get the ocassional ED$N%#K$N%KS in a group, but they invented a kick button for a reason.

True, but I am of little patience

And they suck the fun out the game for me. And why play if I'm not having fun? I'd go play something else then, so I could be having fun.

Edit: I should point out that GW is not the only game I play, so no fun = little point. I don't game for prestige or anything. Most fun I've had in months was getting killed all over the map in UT (yes, the original).

I should also add that I largely treat GW like any other single player RPG, which might explain why I don't care about pvp. I suspect much of the PVE GW population is exactly the same. It being an MMO/Corpg is just a fact we live with as we have no choice. Of course, PVP players like Snow Bunny and Van Gogh can't accept this, oh no. It must be because we don't have the 1337 5k1llz, init?

Halmyr · Feb 17, 2008, 11:12 PM // 23:12

From my Personal point of view, and from what I have seen.

I'l say that I both enjoy PvE and PvP

A large part seems to be in PvE, and a minority in PvP.
But If PvP was more inviting and nice to new player, less exclusive, PvP would be a lot more popular, and more would be playing.

Rhuobhe · Feb 17, 2008, 11:18 PM // 23:18

how can pvpers suck the fun out of GW if you dont pvp and they don't pve?

are you just bored with the game because pve is stale? pvp is fun and offers uncertainty because every match is different and in that respect new.

Shuuda · Feb 17, 2008, 11:19 PM // 23:19

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

Post of the year

Also /agreed.

7hir7een · Feb 17, 2008, 11:20 PM // 23:20

Based on the skill nerfs and updates, 90% PvP and 10% PvE

Based on the player base, the majority is PvE and the vast minority PvP, with several players doing both.

randomperson · Feb 17, 2008, 11:24 PM // 23:24

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Originally Posted by Arcanis the Omnipotent

GvG in general because it tends to create the biggest assholes in the PVP side, and thus encourages me even more not to PVP and thus all those PVP people who say GvG and in wider that PVP is the greatest part of the game, and the only part that skill balances effect reinforce my idea that most of the assholes in this game are from GvG.

Hey guess what, GvG gives out real-world prizes for winning tournaments.

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Originally Posted by Malice Black

Play Fury...? It's all PvP.

Fury is terrible... Auran has pretty much gone bankrupt because of its failure.

Oh, and Van Goghs Ear's post was epic-good.

enter_the_zone · Feb 17, 2008, 11:36 PM // 23:36

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Originally Posted by Rhuobhe

how can pvpers suck the fun out of GW if you dont pvp and they don't pve?

are you just bored with the game because pve is stale? pvp is fun and offers uncertainty because every match is different and in that respect new.

My point was : playing pvp sucks the fun out of GW for me via the players. I have done enough pvp to know that this is true for me.

I can avoid stupid people via H/H in PVE, but, if I want to HA, I am forced to endure them, so I just don't HA. Frankly, I don't have much time for people and their pathetic failings in real life, so why would I in game? I am at least as big an arsehole as most pvp players, if not more so, and too many arseholes aren't any fun.

GvG and AB (I know, not real pvp.) I have no issue with since I GvG with people I like and they work as a team and I don't have to listen to annoying retards on vent in AB.

garethporlest18 · Feb 18, 2008, 12:01 AM // 00:01

I don't like doing things that require me to use my brain. Because if I have to use my brain it's most likely that I"ll get stressed out when I lose. So I'll just stay crappy at this game and do RA and AB as my only PvP. Suits me just fine.

GrimEye · Feb 18, 2008, 12:16 AM // 00:16

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Originally Posted by Van Goghs Ear

Competition is part of the human spirit. It's human nature to compete. Too bad a lot of you allowed your shattered egos and pride get in the way of experiencing probably one of the most interesting and unique pvp games that you can find in video games past and present.

but oh well...at least you have a voltaic spear and can complete all the missions on...gasp...hard mode...

Competition is part of the human spirit as greed and stupidity are. The "rat race" mentality is a package nurtured by media and corporate thinking. Everything has to be either-or.

Hardcore competitive players will always think themselves better than others simply because its part of their mind-set. That does not mean it's true.

If people feel better about themselves by degrading other, its their choice.

I play PVP and PVE, but have been recently playing PVE more now. I guess my ego and pride are shattered. BTW, where are the "great" PVP players now? How's their ego and pride?

A discussion on PVP and PVE, once again, turn to insulting and labeling and name-calling.

My take.

maraxusofk · Feb 18, 2008, 12:19 AM // 00:19

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Originally Posted by Van Goghs Ear

There's a saying in life:

99% of the people in the world masturbate, and the other 1% is lying.

I kind of view the pve/pvp debate as such, only it's flip flopped. 1% of the community pvp's competitively, and the other 99% wishes they could.

I just don't get people who only pve. Why play this game if you are only going to pve? Some say they like that you don't have to grind, but once you complete all the chapters (which could easily be done in a week or so) that's all there is left to do, is grind. You might not be grinding for the best armor, best weapons, best w/e, but you're still grinding, titles and farming. That's all there really is left to do, this is not an expanding universe, it only expands once every yearish.

pve'ers are just as bad as pvpers when it comes to showing off. The only difference is pvpers do it with emotes, and pve'ers do it by pinging there crappy sundering weapons in team chat and wearing their black dyed armors with chaos gloves.

also saying you don't pvp because of all the 'aholes' is just a crutch. Don't like trashtalk? Turn off all chat. It's that simple.

I really think the only reason most people say they don't like pvp is simply because they're afraid to look like morons for the first few months while they learn, and rather than taking a chance on something that could possibly be fun, new and exciting, they stick to safe ole pve where the monsters all ball up and only have 4 skills on their bars and you always know what you're gonna face. Safe, boring, predictable pve.

I think anyone who plays this game and slags pvp probably just never gave it the chance it deserves because they couldn't stand being bested by other players and went back to pve where that could never happen and they could feel reassured in knowing that others could never accuse them of being worse players in pve because they have fow armor and chaos gloves...

of course pve only players would never fess up to that, but it's the truth IMO. Competition is part of the human spirit. It's human nature to compete. Too bad a lot of you allowed your shattered egos and pride get in the way of experiencing probably one of the most interesting and unique pvp games that you can find in video games past and present.

but oh well...at least you have a voltaic spear and can complete all the missions on...gasp...hard mode...

cant put it any better myself. this post > this thread

quickmonty · Feb 18, 2008, 12:23 AM // 00:23

IMO any thread title that includes PvP and PvE should be locked and deleted immediatly, as the flames an insults are bound to start flying around.

You like PvP
I like PvE
We don't meet ingame
Let's just both play how we want to without the childish insults.

PinoyRurik · Feb 18, 2008, 12:23 AM // 00:23

this discusion is great and all but please refrain from flaming...
no name calling please...
no pvp is better or pve is better...
not cause your playing it doesnt mean its the best...

original question please.

Nevin · Feb 18, 2008, 12:40 AM // 00:40

Neither.

12 chars.

Terra Xin · Feb 18, 2008, 12:40 AM // 00:40

Original Question?

Both.